Curse

Esan · Oct 25, 2007, 12:16 PM // 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuld

Because its pointless, the unwashed masses get to decide how good things are, without having any credentials or even experience. [...]

Welcome to wikis, where there is no barrier to entry and every voice is as loud as your own. Compound this with a basis on opinion, not fact, and you have made yourself a perfect cesspit.

Build rating is, unfortunately, the best of all the suggestions the wiki community has had so far about builds. Meta moderation of the build raters might help some, but I have my doubts.

(I agree that "innovation" is rubbish. Nothing should be rated down just because it is old and popular.)

erfweiss · Oct 25, 2007, 12:19 PM // 12:19

I use some of the builds on there as a starting point, try to tweak things to my own personal preference. Then again, something l like Spirit Scythe is amusing to try.

More for entertainment value.

Katrina Sandstorm · Oct 25, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

I find creating my own builds to be rather fun.

lishi · Oct 25, 2007, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Most of "great build" pretty much suck

Water Angel · Oct 25, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03

prolyl all noobs in ha.they see build on wiki they go in ha get pwned and suck and cry.

Railin · Oct 25, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

I used exact wiki builds, and then after a while configuring them to my liking. Now my builds still have the same purpose, but I like them better this way.

Phineas · Oct 25, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37

I also use the builds as templates for farming, but swap skills in and out to suit the task in hand.

unienaule · Oct 25, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Lol, someone told Skuld "welcome to wikis" lol.

fowlero · Oct 25, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

i've used it on new chars on professions i dont know to learn the decent skills and some syngergy. skills cost a lot

used a couple farm builds off there but now its mostly to get another way of looking at skills and to get inspiration for my own, that is if i use it at all.

Chuk Charcoales · Oct 25, 2007, 08:06 PM // 20:06

I use it all the time for PVP and PVE. It makes the game much easier when you know the best builds for any part of the game. Some people call me a "wikier", but I disagree. Why go through the time-consuming process of thinking up builds when they have already been thought up?

This was "sarcasm" although some is true. I'll leave it up to you to sift through it.

Anyway... I personally like to create builds when I am extremely bored and feel like doing RA.

That is all. Good Day.

super strokey · Oct 25, 2007, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Im not the best at making builds so i generally use the builds and then slightly alter them. It should be noted that im a PvE'er

Molock · Oct 25, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

I've looked at some of the builds.. looked for any good synergies between skills that about it. I make my own builds for many reasons.. mainly because I want to know how to use them perfectly and because I don't want them to suck... lol

anonymous · Oct 25, 2007, 08:51 PM // 20:51

D. never

If I really need someones build I just watch their skills...

Senrath · Oct 25, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

I often use their builds to base my own off of. I look at a general idea and see if I can make it better :P

Alex the Great · Oct 25, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

c. only research

when i start a new class or orientation i look at common set ups for it

examples-

-changing my sword warrior to an axe warrior
-making a new rit
-other ele attributes that arn't fire

**cosyfiep** · Oct 25, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

never used them, never even knew what they were or that they even existed. then again I never really liked cookie cuter type things anyways (free form cookies ftw).

Magnus_1 · Oct 26, 2007, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Myeh, I don't.
Besides, I can't trust PvX till crap like the Vigorous Paladin and WoH Healer get nuked.

Ouch. I've been running a WoH Monk that is very similar to PvXWiki's for... well, years (I can only just make that a plural). I can't say I've ever had problems with it either. Perhaps I will stop by the Monk section here...

By the way, what is so bad about the standard WoH Monk? Granted, I don't like the build exactly as it's posted, but as a starting point it seems good enough.

cdgsax · Oct 26, 2007, 05:06 AM // 05:06

Sometimes I go there to see the builds they are testing and try them out myself. Most of them are pretty bad.

ElinoraNeSangre · Oct 26, 2007, 05:19 AM // 05:19

It's great for hero builds and the occasional farming build. For normal day to day builds that I use to play in PvE, I prefer to come up with my own stuff.

With so many heroes on so many characters, some of them running builds I wouldn't be running (for instance, I never run death magic or fire magic), it speeds things up to have a starting point for builds.

cyberjanet · Oct 26, 2007, 09:16 AM // 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnus_1

By the way, what is so bad about the standard WoH Monk?

Nothing at all.
This thread is so you can post how L33T you are because you prefer to reinvent wheels.

For those who can recognise a perfectly good wheel and turn it into a tool, well...